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Post by popeye on Jun 13, 2013 14:43:31 GMT -5
Give hard notched customs they have a tube shark and might be able to bend it. Plus they good people to deal with
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Post by poorboy1 on Jun 13, 2013 19:08:36 GMT -5
I would only do the 2" up travel if your building a crawler or have air bumps. Any speed in the sand or rough trail you will be bottoming out.
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Post by Rock Dawg on Jun 17, 2013 13:57:45 GMT -5
Thanks jason, how much up travle would you suggest? I think he is planning on buying air bumps some time in the future if he can get these shocks...
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Post by CRAZY BASTARD on Jun 17, 2013 20:38:38 GMT -5
I would say at least 4" no matter what. But 5 or 6 would be just about right.
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Post by Rock Dawg on Jun 18, 2013 12:53:01 GMT -5
I would say at least 4" no matter what. But 5 or 6 would be just about right. The problem is, it gets so tall... He is wanting to keep it as low as possible. We may cut out and move a frame cross piece to see if we can get more clearance without having to rase it higher then it already is. |
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Post by CRAZY BASTARD on Jun 18, 2013 13:19:41 GMT -5
The amount of up travel does not affect the ride height. You just need to Mount the shocks higher up. If you only run 2" of up travel you will be bottoming out just street driving.
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Post by Rock Dawg on Jun 19, 2013 11:34:21 GMT -5
The amount of up travel does not affect the ride height. You just need to Mount the shocks higher up. If you only run 2" of up travel you will be bottoming out just street driving. Hmm.. At it's current ride height, it has about 2" of up travel before the top 4-link brackets hit a cross member on the frame. So to get more then 2" of travel we either need to lift the ride height up higher, or cut and move the cross member. Even cutting and moving the cross member will not give us much more clearance. |
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Post by poorboy1 on Jun 19, 2013 11:46:05 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure a few of us were trying to warn you of that issue earlly on about ride heights with rockwells. 2" of up travel is hardly enough to make a rubber bump stop function correctly. I assume you'll run a bump of some sort. So in reality you will be driving on or just barely off your bump stop. Before you get to crazy with cutting and welding the rear suspension you should take a hard look at the front. It is usually worse for keeping low. There is no point fighting to keep the rear as low as possible if in the end the front will have to be taller to accomidate everything.
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Post by Rock Dawg on Jun 19, 2013 14:22:27 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure a few of us were trying to warn you of that issue earlly on about ride heights with rockwells. 2" of up travel is hardly enough to make a rubber bump stop function correctly. I assume you'll run a bump of some sort. So in reality you will be driving on or just barely off your bump stop. Before you get to crazy with cutting and welding the rear suspension you should take a hard look at the front. It is usually worse for keeping low. There is no point fighting to keep the rear as low as possible if in the end the front will have to be taller to accomidate everything. LOL, yes we've talked about the Rockwell and ride height, but until it got under the jeep, I never really knew how tall it could end up being  . I've been talking to Tyler about this and been advising him how "we" would setup the ride height. I know he wants it as low as possible and I'm thankfull to have the advise from friends like you guys that have already been though setting up axles and have learned how much clearance we need. It is a good point about the front end, we don't have it yet so it's harder for us to imagine what the issues may be. Tyler is trying to setup his suspention alot like what Jasons is because we know it works well. The bottom rear links will be straight and the uppers will have a 30ish degree angle on the uppers mounting them to the top hat bracket. He is hoping to afford rear air shocks for now. |
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Post by popeye on Jun 19, 2013 14:52:57 GMT -5
just take the rear Rockwell put it in front of the jeep at about the height it will sit with whatever tire size your gonna run, jack the jeep up enough just to clear the 3rd member/top loader . if I remember correctly that 3rd member sit about 10" above the axle. that should give you a idea on how tall it will be or ask pb1 if you can bring a 12pk and go climb on his truck.
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Post by poorboy1 on Jun 19, 2013 19:32:01 GMT -5
You probably dont want to hear this but you can gain 3" of up travel by not using a top hat.
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Post by chevtech on Jun 19, 2013 22:58:39 GMT -5
You will gain alot of clearance by putting 1-tons under it.  |
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Post by blk01ram on Jun 20, 2013 14:17:39 GMT -5
If you really want to see how tall it might be in person take a ride out to Cornelius. Turn south on 20th and drive till it ends. You'll see the one I was talking to you about with the floorboards ~4' from the ground to clear the center chunk and have any sort of travel. I don't know the person just seen the Jeep parked at the house.
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Post by Rock Dawg on Aug 14, 2013 14:11:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure any more on how to post pictures on this board.... Tyler has the rear end done and is now working on the front end. The jeep is sitting about the same height as before and has about 4-5" of up travel with the 18" travel Fox air shocks.  |
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Post by Rock Dawg on Aug 14, 2013 14:18:56 GMT -5
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